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There are many inhumane things that are legal. But that's a whole other topic.
heh I think that Milo is starting to associate the chain with 'don't pull' and i'd have thought if it had been so inhumane that it would cause pain to animals even if used properly I would have thought they would be banned >.>
Call me cruel, but I like "choke collars". I learned to use them correctly and they are one of the most useful tools. I only use it on particular dogs - usually the ones who absolutely refuse to listen to any other means of training. Before our training sessions, they regularly dragged volunteers and even big tough kennel workers down to their knees. After I worked with them for a couple weeks, they were a lot easier to walk. If used responsibly and correctly, they're excellent tools.
oh I know there are cons wit the choke chain but wev'efound it's much easier to control our dog with one than with a halti... we also have a harness for him, he doesn't pull so much with that either, though if he has to wait around with it on he chews through the chest strap so mu mum is having to custom fit it to the right tightness...
Choke collars aren't spikey... Prong collars have prongs.<br /> <br /> Prong collars are safer to use on a dog than a choke chain. The risk of injury is far lower and the correction is more clear. <br /> <br /> I do not recommend either, but then again I don't like corrective tools. <br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBnFOWFqEhI<br /> <br /> A halti is by far a safer option. And I'm extremely surprised anyone knowledgeable in veterinary medicine would suggest a choke chain. Most are educated in the cons of them.
thanks tiger:P <br /> my cousin has halties for her dogs and the middle one still pulls like mad and if she forgets to put them on or if my aunt has them (my sunt thinks anything other than the collar or a t-shirt is cruel) they go insane, thats why we gotour dog the choker so it simulates the collar...<br /> ... that what wev'egot the chain thanks for the definition celest :P<br /> <br /> *edit* just looked up choke collars... eep... spikey...
Choke chollars should absolutely not be used on a pulling dog. That puts the dog at high risk for a collapsed trachea. A choke chain, more appropriately called slip chains were invented as correction collars. Just like a prong.<br /> <br /> @Tiger, I like Haltis if used properly they're very handy, and can be handy in situations with reactive/aggressive dogs if used properly.I however don't like Gentle Leaders, they're too thin for me and insecure. The halti also clips on the collar so it's safer in my opinion.
I really like the Haltie/Gentle leaders, if used right they are one of the most humane training collars made. Its the idiots that YANK their dogs head back when they surge forward that give them a bad rap. or the halters that turn them around when they surge forward but i don't like halters except for dogs doing pulling sports or dogs with tender tracheas
thanks celest, when you say choke collar classes what do you mean? because we got the dog a choke chain to help stop him pulling (one of my mums friends who worked in a vets suggested it) and it seems to have settled him down for the majority of the walk :
Actually you cannot judge what attacks most. As said by the Center Of Disease Control, not all bites are reported, not all are reported accurate. Therefore you really can't say anything bites more than another thing.<br /> <br /> But with documentation it does lean towards non-neutered dogs. Which makes sense because bites happen with irresponsible owners, and most of those owners don't give a rap about neutering their animal.<br /> <br /> I'm glad to hear you're getting classes, avoid correctional, choke collar, prong collar classes. Clicker training can be fun, if you get more into it you can free shape behaviors with your dog (teach them to do something without saying a word or using your hands) Markers can be very important to training, and they don't have to be clickers they can be verbal too. I use "Yes!" to mark desired behaviors.<br />