Aussie, I'm not saying it should be banning your dogs from entering - I've already stated myself that it's easy enough to just ask for open trials, and people make them. All the auto trials would be open to anyone, I'm just saying we should have the <i>choice</i> to say "Only dogs with between these pre-set-by-the-game TP ranges can enter my personal trial" - without having to worry about those people who go "Oh look a foundies trial, I'll stuff my 1k dog into that trial to make sure it wins!" - because seriously, that's not fair to those who're actually only entering their foundies, not their second gens or anything like that.

Most of the time I trail my dogs in a pack against each other - this costs me a pretty penny to do every day - but I got tired of the hate mail. However there are times when I need to use general shows and have every right to. This game is a trailing game and you want to penalize those that have put time, money and effort into this site and their pets because you choose to play the game from a different angle? How does that seem fair? <br /> <br /> I am seeing more and more people going down the list and sticking one or two low tp dogs in every trial on the level and I have to feel bad about needing to use one of the trials. If there is going to be segregation then I would like to see a button on each level where we can just push and Auto Alacratious Trials are immediately created with no limits - actually I would love to see this anyway - the system isn't keeping up with demand. <br /> <br /> I would support first generations only (foundations and customs) and then a broader break down such as: less than 2500 and 2500-5000 and 5000-10000 I don't see any reason why it needs to be broken down into little tiny increments - trainers can put a little effort into finding trails that suit their dogs instead of just dumping them and hoping for the best.

Support.

Jambers, with this suggestion you would still be able to trial with your dog, it would just be put against dogs that have an equal chance. The point is, not everyone can train their monster TP dog, so that takes the fun out of it for those who breed for line purity and TP, not creating monster TP levels.

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i'm not saying you can't trial your dog - I'm saying you shouldn't be allowed to enter your crazy high TP dog in with foundation dogs just because there weren't enough shows.<br /> <br /> There are all ready FD shows only. to put in something that stops people from running there high TP dogs because they want to win all the time isn't fair. If you want to win all the time breed for higher TP don't put a ban on high TP dogs because you loose. This is a trialing game. High TP is what should be strived for, so your dog wins.

Then maybe, Jambers, you should make a request for people to make more open shows? People do that all the time because there aren't enough trials period. I'm not saying you can't trial your dog - I'm saying you shouldn't be allowed to enter your crazy high TP dog in with foundation dogs just because there weren't enough shows. There often aren't a lot of shows for other reasons as well, but it's easily fixed by requesting shows to be made, or making them yourself if you have the three trials still available (assuming you're an upgrade). That easy.

Definitley support, I am aiming at creating a good clean line, so I use a lot of customs and low generation dogs, whith means lower TP, but I also need the money from trialing. When I can put all my dogs in a show together it's great but I don't always have dogs in multiples of five at the same level.

I think brackets would be nice, say 0-300, 300-499, 500-999, 1000-1999, 2000-2999, etc etc <br /> <br /> And there will always be the site made auto trials and there will always be people willing to make open trials.<br /> <br /> I personaly stopped trialing because I couldn't win because of all the HIGH HIGH HIGH TP dogs, I breed for TP but I dont waterbowl and breed my dogs ASAP, my dogs were always on the top of the TopDawgs Aussie list untill the breeder perk came out. I have the perk and a chance but because of my goals and how i breed I couldn't keep up with the surge. And now there's no point to trialing for me....

. I want to know what you think would help the idea be more fair.<br /> <br /> More fair?? I have my Dimi running in Tonto trials, and do you know that only 3 trials for tonto level where avalable to him yesterday because no one wanted a well breed dog in there trial, for the fact that they will loose. Dose that seem fair to you? That a dog i took the time and effert to breed and train is rejected from a trial because hes to good? I really cant see something like this put into place, i cant. I'm trying my best to stay out of the fondation trials and the costume trials, but its getting anoying that my dog suddnly isnt good enough because he has high TP.<br /> <br /> Give constructive criticism, don't sit there and just say you don't support simply so that you can disagree.<br /> <br /> its not about simply disagreeing, ive alredy seen people put up trials for FAD's only CD's only. Its hard enough finding a trial for my dog to run it with the restrictions and requests. why add MORE to it?<br /> <br /> <br /> "Who are you to say that people with foundation and custom dogs should be beaten by 1000+TP dogs just because you (GENERAL you here, don't take this as a personal insult) wanted an easy win?"<br /> <br /> They alredy do FAD's only, they alredy do CD's only trials. <br /> <br /> I put time and effert into getting the highest TP possible for my dogs, the training can take weeks for just one. yes they win at trials but you know what? theres nothing easey about that win.

I support. I have a lot of customs I'd love to trial, but when I enter them they always come in last and it's heartbreaking :( <br /> <br /> I think if it was broken down to something like the search function - 0-300, 301-500, 501-700, etc. Or maybe a wider range, like 0-500, 500-1000... Just so that my poor little 304 Corgi isn't put up against a 5k Border Collie. o.O