I make $3000 trialing 38 dogs...is it worth all that effort? Not really

With the new system I can make money with dogs with TP of 1k+, but my customs (most now in Odie level) are losing money like crazy. It costs me about $300 a pop and I win about $200-$300 with one winner, it doesn't really give me much of a profit. So like I did before the Trial Prizes were ever changed I simply do not trial them.<br /> <br /> However I do think that it would be nice to make money from them XD

Adding a unique multiplier to high TP dogs would mean losing more money, and being punished for doing well in agility trials whilst on an agility sim, if that makes sense, Kattal. ^^;<br /> <br /> As to Seyra, my point was exactly thus that it discourages people from putting more in and training the best dogs. Since there would be no point in doing so and people would be earning even more money with that unique multiplier being that everyone would be able to accomplish it easily. Which affects the current economy problem to a greater extent.<br /> <br /> It would end up being unfair to one party or another, or lowering the quality bar of dogs.<br /> <br /> Multipliers should be fair for all dogs. :) Either it is the same or it should not be implemented. Rewarding people for doing less whilst punishing people who put in more is a bit backwards in society.<br /> <br /> I do find agility tiers to be a bit unrealistic and having its own set of problems that could be wildly abused. I think much the point of Alacrity is better breeding for higher chances of winning; but that may be my personal opinion.

I'm wondering if the trial winnings have been straightened out yet? Last time I entered my dog he consistently made about $300 less than he usually does. I've frozen him for the time being, as I don't want to lose money.<br /> <br /> In regards to the TP bracketing idea, I agree with Jackdaw (even though I have to watch out for her crazy TP dogs in competitions XD) The whole point of trialing is competition, and limiting that into small categories doesn't really make sense to me. It would then just be a race to get a dog with the highest TP possible that still fits just within its bracket. <br /> <br /> I don't know about everyone else, but I don't just randomly enter my dogs into trials. I look to see what I'm competing against then try to measure my chance at winning. If you do this, you should be pretty successful. A TP bracket system would frankly make this process a lot more complicated for me. Checking out the my competitors' TP before entering is a pain as it is, having to examine each individual stat (because the TP is so close) to see if I could still win would be a ton of trouble.

I'm new here so I don't really have much experience with trialing or anything.<br /> <br /> But I think a TP Bracket (especially in the way you want to use it for) is kind of abusing the system?<br /> In real life you can't choose who you go against in Agility, you're just separated by Titles ( which is already done, by your wins ).<br /> <br /> Or, like, I really don't know. <br /> <br /> But you really shouldn't be able to put all of your dogs in one comp and then reap the benefits. >&lt;

I think the TP bracket is what should ge enforced, because today I made 3 Marley trials,entered 3 dogs in each for a total of 7k, and the trial was specifically name "Under 3k TP dogs only!" but two 8k TP Monsters entered the trial and I only made 5k back from the trial, so losing 2k a day is really making it hard for me to feed my dogs. 8P

Well...wouldn't you make more money that way anyhow Jackdaw?? I mean...I'm new but I thought it was easier to train up 3k and under TP dogs and didn't require a magical water bowl. No matter what most people have more of the lower TP dogs just because they don't require water bowls to max...don't they?

I understand your point of view, Jackdaw but as it stands, I am loosing money half the time I trial. How is that supposed to be helping?

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I believe the revised trial prizes are fine. :)<br /> <br /> I do not think there should be unique multipliers. Either it applies for all dogs or it shouldn't happen at all.<br /> <br /> The sim should encourage people to do better whilst finding means to correct the economy.<br /> <br /> Otherwise an individual would be making more profit rearing 1-3k TP dogs as opposed to 5-9k, because at some point they will be losing more money in entry fees and cost of used total training sessions.<br /> <br /> There would be no real meaning in raising the best dogs if using the same efforts to create a team of lower dogs will bring in more over a time comparison. Short term it will appear that high TP dogs will earn more under those types of assigned multipliers but not the case long term when -all- expenses are looked into. If I am making any sense. ^^;<br /> <br /> I like to encourage people to do more and be rewarded as opposed to lowering standards and hindering them instead of finding alternative means of fixing it when the effort involved on their behalf is taken into consideration. It would be unfair in my own opinion.

Ok I'm not sure how much things have changed since this started but I thought I might start keeping track and right away with my first set of trails, I noticed something odd. I paid $1,445 to enter my dogs in my friend's trials that they set up for me. I was the only person to enter all 3 Odie Trials. I only won $1,004 from all 3 trials. So basically I paid $441 to have my dogs enter trials and get nothing back. I don't mind the profit cuts on the trials so much but like you said, we need to be able to earn something. Thanks again for all your hard work on this problem.