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Alastair
#1 • 5004 views
Posted: 2011-08-18 15:42:33
#8766
Trial prizes.
Trial prizes, as I said before, are under a period of adjustment until I figure out what lets you guys earn money, but not obscene amounts, and also lets ALL your dogs earn money from trialing instead of it costing money to trial.
They've been lowered for higher levels, but still higher than what they were at first. :)
Replies
Doom Shroom
#56552 • 2011-09-02 21:08:52
#56552
I consider 500 or 600 to be low TP for those levels. Anything under 1k really is low there.
Aussie
#56286 • 2011-08-31 17:06:18
#56286
Top entry fee for each of the levels that people seem to be complaining about is:<br /> <br /> Dogbert $25 <br /> Scooby $75 <br /> Odie $375 <br /> Toto $750<br /> Marley $1500<br /> <br /> My second gen pitbulls with a 650 TP clear the highest Toto entry fee by $200. Realistically I wouldn't expect to take a low TP dog like that past 150 trials anyway. <br /> <br /> I am not sure what TP people are trailing that is making them loose money or "just break even" you can't expect low TP dogs to perform at the same levels as high TP dogs - it's just not realistic to think that you can rake in the money with a 300 TP custom. Yes I think there should be a lower standard entry fee per level - but as much as everyone wants more money - jacking up the winnings is not going to do any good except continue to ruin the economy.
How does it get better in Toto? My toto trials cost even more to enter and give me between nothing to 100 in winnings... sometimes I go into the negatives.
Nightmareslost
#56243 • 2011-08-31 00:15:12
#56243
I'm finding that I'm making less and less money in Odie as my dogs trial, so much so that I sometimes barely break even, depending on the tp of the dogs. It's barely worth it to trial for some of my dogs, but as I'm making the most money in Marley and then Toto, I have to go through it to get them to a point where they do make instead of lose.<br /> <br /> So, basically what Gamzee said.
Steaks
#56037 • 2011-08-29 19:19:57
#56037
I'm not even breaking even when my dogs win in Dogbert, Scooby and Odie, really.
Hypno Shroom
#55715 • 2011-08-28 08:26:31
#55715
Right now, my only Marley dog is a 3k+ dog, which I can hardly use anymore, because the trials all fill up with dogs with at least 5k TP and she wouldn't win a thing. <br /> <br /> I do what deja does and check the competition, how ever, if everyone is doing that no one would make the first entry into any trial. <br /> <br /> I have a large kennel and about 20 - 30 lower TP (under 1000) trial dogs at any given time. I barely make profit with them, and it is quite some work to enter them 2 - 3 times a day (with feeding them regularly). If I would not usually put 5 of my dogs in the same trial, I would make no money at all, or would have to wait hours for a chance to find a trial where my dogs would have a chance. <br /> <br />
I like that idea, as well, Thy. I can't wrap my head around coding it, but it's a great idea!
Steaks
#55018 • 2011-08-23 19:42:17
#55018
I really like that idea, Thylacine :)
Bobbie
#55009 • 2011-08-23 18:56:52
#55009
I used to trial every dog I own, and made roughly 30K a day. The other day, from trialing all my dogs, I came out about 1k ahead. That doesn't even cover the food I feed my dogs every day.<br /> <br /> One possible solution is a sloped fee/prize system. I've made an example here.<br /> <br /> <img width="400" src="http://i.imgur.com/YhfK1.png"><br /> <br /> The fee+prize ammount would rise pretty steeply with low level dogs, but the higher you get, the more that levels off (but never completely.)<br /> <br /> This would make breeding for high TP dogs worth the effort, without making money worth less than air. <br /> At no point should a dog make less money than a lower TP dog.
Yes, which is why I must ask: is the real problem the amount of the winnings, or the steep entry fees at higher levels of competition? The prize multiplier stays the same throughout an entire bracket but the registration fee goes up with every win.<br /> <br /> If I enter 3 dogs for 1k each, and the top dog is at least 2500 TP (which is still pretty high) and just that dog wins, I get say 5k back. That's a whole whopping 2k profit! And how many people have 2500+ tp dogs? Under 2k is far more common, and the profit is less or non-existant.<br /> <br /> Now...realistic or not one thing that would definitely help is if 4th and 5th place still earned money. Even if ALL they get is their entry fee returned, it helps people to actually trial their lower tp dogs.<br /> <br /> In the above scenario that 5k that the winning dog earned would only have to cover its entry fee, or 1k, so 4k comes back to me, which is twice what happened above.<br /> <br /> The other thing that does need to be considered is the amount of dogs. Yes one 9k dog brings in a lot of money, but so do 20-40 2k and under dogs (at least I HOPE they do), so players with large kennels will be making more money than those with fewer dogs. I can't fathom how to even that out or even if we should, but it is something to keep in mind when considering the economy of Ala.
