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My Belief

I believe that until us humans are gone, there can be no true peace. It's because of us that the world is being ruined. Animals eat each other, but they don't kill each other off for some stupid reason. I also believe that love is what enables us to hate. We hate because a loved one gets hurt. That hate leads us to retaliate and get revenge, and that revenge no doubt happens to someone who was also loved. Then they're also compelled to get revenge and satisfy their hatred. It's a vicious circle that cannot be stopped. I believe that there's no such thing as true peace, or at least until we are long gone, there can never be something like that.
Post back whatever you want. We all have opinions, and I'm just stating mine. <3 I know a lot of us were chatting about this, so why not have a place where we can reread those opinions later?

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I'm never going to jump right in and have kids. If I even have any, I'm only having one. But before that, I'm going to think for a long time as to why I'd want to bring a child into this war zone of a world.
Casie your math is a little off. It takes 2 people to make 1 person. So 1mil people wouldn't make 2mil if they each had 2 kids ^^;.<br /> <br /> What I think is driving their numbers up is the older living longer along with kids still being brought in. The life span of humans has really jumped since the beginning of our existence. <br /> <br /> Something I don't understand is why people who obviously don't have enough money will have 3+ kids. It doesn't make any sense. If you can barely provide for the kids you have, why would you get more? <br /> <br /> I'm not sure if I even want kids but if I do, I wouldn't want many. I find that it would be better to have 1-2 where I can provide fully for them and know I could send them to college or anything else. (slight deviation from topic)
Well in China , they have a limit on the number of children you can have and their popluation is still growing rapidly. But I guess if you have a population of 1 million and everyone can have two kids, then the next generation is likely to be 2 million. <br /> <br /> Also Im not sure if anyone here knows this, but there was a car invented that could run on sugarcane fuel and compost type fuel, but the person who made it sold the patent for x amount of money to a big company and they destroyed the car so the invention would not be a threat to the oil industry =/
<i>"However, humans are not a wild species such as tigers and wolves, and we have no historical evidence to help predict what would happen."</i><br /> <br /> My guess is something like when there are natural disasters. "Bands" of people would probably form in order to protect their dwindling resources. Looting, violence, etc. <br /> <br /> <i>"I think the population is getting too large. I know some places already are limiting the number of children you can have. I'm not sure if there's stats somewhere to suggest if this works or not? Either way you will have people that will be mad if it was ever imposed. "</i><br /> <br /> I also wonder if this works. People just don't need to be having two+ children right now. Everyone seems to have the mentality that you can't be a family or "whole" without one or more. In fact people get upset and will even ridicule you if you say you don't want them. I'd rather have food in my belly and gas in my car than to have something taking that away from already existing people.<br /> <br /> <i>"I'm not sure how to really comment on this to be honest. There are a lot of things wrong but a huge chunk are those in power that have the option to try and change them but are under all these bribes and agendas."</i><br /> <br /> Agreed! It's obvious to anyone who looks that the government is highly corrupt. I've got lots of documentaries about how that has affected the natural environment. Examples. Fracking (oil drilling) has a hundred and one health hazards, but because the government is paid off, it continues full steam ahead instead of seeking alternative methods. Large scale farming is another one as the way they do that isn't natural or healthy at ALL. If I remember right 93% of large scale farming is owned by one corporation, so guess who has most of the say about that? <br /> <br /> This is why I like the occupy protestors, they raise public awareness to these things. Hopefully at some point the government will listen to it's people.... if it stops trying to silence them first.<br /> <br /> I also have to agree with Kaitie on the fact that not all people are bad. There are lots and lots of people and groups out there who are doing everything in their power to make things better. Plus you have people who are doing self sustaining houses, communes, etc.
Religion and money cause the most wars and fights. They have been pretty much since the beginning of humans. <br /> <br /> Very rarely it seems that people kill for nothing. I'm not sure why that was mentioned by someone? I also don't see too many killings out of revenge of someone they love? I see it as it happening to promote religion and to bash those that do not believe in the same things. <br /> <br /> I think the population is getting too large. I know some places already are limiting the number of children you can have. I'm not sure if there's stats somewhere to suggest if this works or not? Either way you will have people that will be mad if it was ever imposed. <br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to really comment on this to be honest. There are a lot of things wrong but a huge chunk are those in power that have the option to try and change them but are under all these bribes and agendas. <br /> <br /> Not everyone is bad or horrible. It's amazing what some individuals can and have done. It sort of reminds me when my school was under national fire because only a small group of students (1-5) made bad decisions. Everyone was saying that everyone that went to that school was bad (3000 students). It's a little saddening to give up on those that do well for the few that don't care. ^^;
Hippie, we can hope it never comes to that, that hopefully the population will even out as it does in the wild. Right now we are growing at an exponential rate and when a wild population is growing like that, there is a breaking point where the ecosysytem just cant support the population, and the number will drop, then rise, then drop and sort of bounce back and forth over this metaphorical line. <br /> <br /> However, humans are not a wild species such as tigers and wolves, and we have no historical evidence to help predict what would happen.
<i>"It's because of us that the world is being ruined."</i><br /> <br /> I think it was projected that by year 2050 there would be 10 billion+ people on the planet. My question is, what happens when we run out of natural resources? (gas, healthy food, etc.)
Kit, you can't compare to behaviors of a domesticated animal and a captive wild animal to those of the truly wild animals still out there. In the wild that kitten either wouldn't have been in that "strangers" territory it would have still been with mom to defend it or if it was old enough to be on its own it would have ran away, but it was trapped in a house with nowhere to go.<br /> <br /> Tigers in the wild do kill humans from time to time, but humans have also encroached on their terratory to the point where they have nowhere to go to really get away from humans. And also tigers don't go out of their way to find humans and kill them like humans are with Rhinos, Elephants and many other species they are hunting for ONE part of their body for supposed holistic properties among other reasons.
*populations of other large mammals* fixing the typo in the third paragraph
Perhaps the cat killed the kitten not because it wasn't "fond" of it, but because it saw it as an invader in its territory. Like you said previously, we and other animals are territorial and protective. <br /> <br /> Also, I understand that other animals will kill and not eat it, but it doesnt mean they have no reason. Some examples may be a fight over resources, or a territorial dispute. But humans routinely kill, not just other humans, but other animals for pelts or a specific part of the animal - generally for fashion. <br /> <br /> Humans would be a fine species on this planet, but look at our population. Millions and millions of us, compared to the populations of large mammals. There are way too many of us competing for the same finite resources, and there are not enough to support all of us.<br /> <br /> Perhaps if the population was balanced with other species there would be far less of this competition and more room so there would be less disputes, then some if not most of the issues would be solved. There would be less need to fight and kill for money or food.<br /> <br />

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