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Mean Dogs - Training or Euthanasia?

This is a topic that got started today in chat when one of our members reported being bitten by a neighbor's dog. I am starting a thread here for people who want to continue the discussion.

For my own opinion, I believe that most dogs that bite have been poorly socialized and many can be helped with proper training, which probably cannot be provided by the people who let the dog get into - let's call it a "biting condition" - in the first place. Others think that once a dog begins biting, and it should be put down. Some have discussed cases in which dogs that nipped under duress have been put down unfairly.

If you have an opinion, this is the place to discuss it, folks.

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Id say its a little of both... Some dogs would have a miserable life because of their aggressiom, stuck in a stupid cage in the backyard constantly unable to play... Some dogs are so aggressive it wouldnt be fair to make them have such a stressful life. But om the other hand I dont want to give up hope on them because what if Every dog Can be helped? I guess it depends on where you draw the line on when a dog cant be helped and what dogs would be just sentenced to a stressful life. Like I dont want to give up om any dog and it breaks my heart that some have to b pit to sleep but I just dont want to put so much stress on an animal if its clear that no one can slash doesnt want to give the dog the special care it needs
One major thing people over look is socializing their dogs to the vet's office.... IDK how many dogs just totally FLIP OUT when we just barely touch them.
So many stories, so many different thoughts about what should have happened ...<br /> <br /> In the story of the dog who was poked and grabbed through the chain link fence, I want to ask: (1) How did the kids get hold of it through the fence? (2) Why didn't the dog just go farther away from them when they were bothering it? [A well socialized dog will often do that, but it often takes time for them to learn that behavior.] (3) How did the dog nip anyone through a fence? If the kids' hands were inside the fence, I'd say it was pretty much their own fault. Dogs tend to be barrier-protective and even a very good dog might well nip under those circumstances. The kids need to be trained in this case, and unless the dog had taken off someone's hand, I do not understand why it was put down.<br /> <br /> In the case of the face bite, apparently because there was popcorn present, the dog seems to have had no training or it would not have been lunging for popcorn. It was also reported to have bitten before. I would say this is not a safe dog. Dogs that are not child safe, or that are prone to bite if handled in particular ways, should logically be kept separated from children or other people who either do not know about their special requirements or are not responsible enough to remember to be careful. The dog and its behavior are the responsibility of the owner, not of the visitor to their home who is hurt by the dog. My best guess is that this dog desperately needs obedience training, which I doubt it will get in a home that has allowed it to behave in this way. It looks like, unless the dog is removed and retrained, it may eventually do something that will get it euthanized - not because it deserves to be killed, but because that's what happens in our society when dogs habitually bite.<br /> <br /> And from my own experience, two more stories with different decision points:<br /> <br /> (1) A previously pleasant dog in my neighborhood started to get mean as he got older. His owner thought he was just getting old and cranky and did what he could to make sure the dog wasn't bothered and everyone was kept safe, but the dog's behavior became steadily worse. Eventually it was discovered that he had developed an inoperable brain tumor. He had become quite dangerous by that time and the only real option was to put him down, which the owner sadly did.<br /> <br /> (2) There's a dog that someone brings to the local dog park that is unpredictable. It appears to be friendly, wags up to people and asks for petting, but if someone looks it directly in the eye, it sometimes snarls and bites them suddenly. While I approve the owner's desire to rehabilitate the dog, which was treated rather terribly for three years before he got hold of it, he does not have the right to endanger other people and animals by letting the dog run loose in the dog park without warning. People tend to assume that dogs they meet in the dog park are well socialized and safe, they naturally want to pet such a beautiful dog, and they are completely unprepared for this behavior. Now, if the owner were to come in, explain the situation to everyone, and ask if others were willing to have the dog run in the park while they were there (and especially if he were wiling to leave again if they said no) that would be another matter altogether. He does not have the right to decide to decide to risk others with this dog. He is also risking the dog's life. If the dog seriously injures someone, it will be put down because that is the law here. But because he loves the dog, he doesn't see this very clearly. I hope it will end as he hopes - that the dog will learn to trust and enjoy life. I fear that it could go the other way.<br /> <br /> As I see it, each case is different. Most dogs can be supported and trained into better behavior. Some dogs cannot, for various reasons. In almost every case however, reponsible owners will keep the dog from becoming someone else's problem. Sadly, there are far too few responsible owners.
I think it just needs to be further trained and corrected. If there is a really sweet dog who bites someone out of annoyance, it shouldn't be thought of as a dangerous dog right away. If my neighbor's dog barely nipped my finger and I didn't even draw blood, how can it be considered dangerous? I could have probably provoked it unknowingly, and all it was doing was trying to defend itself. I think the main reason dogs bite is because they're fearful and they haven't been through a certain situation without consequences. I even have a video to prove this. The dog is trained in the video, but it was only doing its job.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://animal.discovery.com/videos/untamed-uncut-animal-bites/">Accidental Dog Bite</a><br /> <br /> <b>Click on number 3</b>
Training. If I child provokes a dog to bite, then both the child and dog should be punished. The dog, unless it MAULS the child, should not be put to sleep, but trained and taught NOT to do it ever again. Putting a dog down merely for nipping is not acceptable, in my opinion. Unless it has rabies or something.<br /> <br /> All I'll say about it. (:<br /> <br /> Edit: And, I don't believe the same thing if a dog is just plain uncontrollable. Some dogs tend to just not be right, after years of neglect or abuse, or very bad breeding. If a dog is uncontrollable, and unfixable, even by the dog whisperer, then by all means, the dog is likely better off being put down then being put in another bad situation.

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