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illusions of dreaming
#6174 • 2394 views
Posted: 2011-08-08 03:57:58
#8596
Pedigree Dogs
Warning: This topic can be very delicate to some. If you're easily offended, wise advise: Stay away
Pedigree Dogs, according to the apple dictionary Pedigree is the record of descent of an animal, showing it purebred. I assume you all know what 'Dog' is.
I was just introduced to that term a few weeks ago. I own a miniature schnauzer named Shushi (yes adorable name X'3) and my mom, as an example to explain what 'Pedigree dogs' are said that Shushi, in an indirect way a pedigree dog because she's (assuming) a pure miniature schnauzer. I was all 'oh' and such since I was a small kid, dogs must be a certain kind of breed, and mixes are just some warped creation. I was proven wrong when I came across this documentary, Pedigree Dogs Exposed (click link <--- don't watch if you have weak heart and can't look at stuff like blood and sicknesses) After watching it, I felt somewhat shocked and the first thing I did, was rush over to Alacrity and check the linearts of all the dog breeds, relieved that nothing's wrong with them so far. But it did rip a brand new gap in my POV in ala now (nothing to do with ala I assure you). I'm scared to breed my dogs (shocking) and hoping more than ever that I could breed mixes. I never viewed my mini schnauzer like I used to anymore.
What do YOU think of pedigree dogs? What are pedigree dogs to you? Your opinion of the documentary?(if you've watched it)
Your point of view might change after watching the documentary so to be fair you can post what you think of Pedigree dogs first, watch then edit and tell us what you think AFTER you watched it.
*Video might be slightly biased so always think in both point of views*
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Steaks
#103868 • 2012-06-03 18:37:44
#103868
<i>"but as a general rule, mixed breed dogs are MUCH healthier in terms of hereditary diseases."</i><br /> Could you cite your sources on this? I haven't been popping in this thread for a long time, but I thought I'd common on this. I've heard that because a mutt is mixed up of different breeds, he has the possibility to get any number of illnesses.<br /> <br /> Thoughts?
Nitrous
#103846 • 2012-06-03 13:54:14
#103846
"With purebreds, if a breeder wants to keep their reputation, they check the dogs an plan the breedings."<br /> <br /> Woah woah woah, huge misconception. I don't know what it's like over where you are, but as a general rule, mixed breed dogs are MUCH healthier in terms of hereditary diseases. <br /> <br /> I'll give you my dog for example, she died last year at eight years old. She was a purebred Boxer. Stepdad made the mistake of buying her for $1,000 as a puppy, thinking that because she had "papers" that she was a well bred dog. She wasn't. Far from it.<br /> <br /> He got her at around a year old. She had been improperly socialized, was terrified of men and other dogs and at one point lunged at my face when I bent over to pick up a water bottle I had dropped. She was the last puppy to sell and had been allowed to "run free" on the family farm, which meant she had nearly no human contact for the first year of her life. She had three cancerous tumors removed before the age of <i>four</i>, resulting in an ear amputation. <br /> <br /> This, according to her breeder, was a healthy, sociable, "akc registered, show quality" dog. They prey on idiots who have know idea what they're talking about and assume that "papers" ensure quality.<br /> <br /> "Papers" mean essentially zip.
Vepe
#103827 • 2012-06-03 05:06:05
#103827
I shall express my opinion to this matter.<br /> <br /> Mix-breed dogs are a huge problem. People breed their dogs since they want to have a puppy of their own dog and any partner will do. No casual breeder tests their dogs or their mates for health problems. They only think that their own dog is nice and it will have nice puppies. <br /> With purebreds, if a breeder wants to keep their reputation, they check the dogs an plan the breedings. In Finland, we don't even give out prizes in dog shows except for maybe dog food. The dog show-participant generally lose a lot more money than what they get, even though the price for a purebred puppy is about 1000€, upwards if it's a rare breed. Every day I see ads about selling pedigree-less purebred dogs, and they go for cheaper, a lot cheaper. They come from the casual breeders who don't check their dogs' health.<br /> <br /> Of course a legal and registered breeder will have sick dogs too! It is only natural that not everyone is perfect health. And if we only used perfectly healthy dogs, it would lead to inbreeding and in the end there would be no new blood for the gene-pool.<br /> <br /> Ugh, my though is beginning to escape. I hope this contributes a bit.
DogQuest
#95191 • 2012-03-17 21:09:47
#95191
I discovered this documentary about 2 years ago. I love all dogs, but I would never own a purebred unless I was positive that it was bred properly and not for show-only purposes. <br />
Bookworm
#87887 • 2012-02-14 14:18:47
#87887
I struggle with some purebreds. As you have seen bulldogs are being bred to the death. We have OVER bred our pedigrees. We are killing them, the bull dogs jaw is starting to make it impossible for them to breath, and pugs are soo inbred. for every 1000 pugs there is equal to 5 indavidual dogs thats wrong!. <br /> Also the ridge back is killed if it does not have a ridge back in many cases! Is it right a puppy is being killed for not having a genetical fault? <br /> I agree to some degree with pedigrees as in you tell what your dog will need. But mutts are exiting and beautiful also unique. So I am in it for the mutts!
What you probably watched was a puppy mill. No responcibl breeder would let their dogs get sick, sith blood and in disgusting conditions. I am against puppy mils, not responcibl breeders. Sure, I love recue, but it doesnt mean you have to banish responcible breeders. Responcible breeders love their dogs like family, not abused chickhens. I assure you, on ala you play the role of a responcible breeder, not a mill.
Carnage
#76708 • 2011-12-23 13:42:18
#76708
I hope I'm reading what you're saying right, Illusions. xD <br /> <br /> Uhm. I'll try to explain this as best I can. Humans don't inbreed because it's a matter of morality, which is a human concept. I guess it's possible that certain traits could be passed down in human inbreeding, but you also run into the risks for genetic diseases to pop up. <br /> <br /> Humans don't have a "breed standard" to work towards. We don't show people, so the value of an individual is not based on its conformation to a standard, it's the individual.<br /> <br /> I don't really get why humans would inbreed for purpose.
illusions of dreaming
#73798 • 2011-12-17 07:35:37
#73798
so in a way, if inbreeding passess on certain traits humans would do that too wouldn't they?<br /> almost confirming the theory that nature is better than nurture in this area? xD<br /> psychology xDD
Celestial's Dakonic Shepherds
#61528 • 2011-10-05 05:21:00
#61528
Inbreeding in itself isn't bad >_< It amplifies certain traits, good or bad you have to be cautious. And you should be breeding for certain things, such as a properly shaped,sound, athletic body. Health, dogs should be health tested, and no I don't mean vet check ups. <br /> http://www.pbrc.net/breeding3.html
texasbabe45
#61235 • 2011-10-03 01:46:07
#61235
Oh my that is crazy! i know several breeds suffur and now i know why breeders like that. I dont care what my litters look like if they are healthy there is no way im putting them to sleep! We have had people line up for our dogs, and most come back wanting another of our pups. I breed nice quailty dogs but do not inbreed or breed for certin things.
