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@Veltress, <br /><br />Actually not all dogs can be used for fighting. They are like other dogs yes, but each breed has their differences.
"Q. Can All dogs Be Trained to Fight? "
<br /><br /><a href="http://www.aspca.org/fight-animal-cruelty/dog-fighting/dog-fighting-faq.aspx">"No. Much like herding dogs, trailing dogs and other breeds selected for particular roles, fighting dogs are born ready for the training that will prepare them to succeed in the pit, and are bred to have a high degree of dog aggression. "</a><br /><br /><br />Larthan I agree that the aggression spreads to animals in general. It is a terrier trait, and educated terrier owner would know that. And considering when a fighting dog is being raised and conditioned for fighting. They are often tied to jennys with a small animal (sometimes cats) in a cage in front of them. They chase it in circles and are allowed to kill it as a reward.<br /><br /><br />It is irresponsible for a APBT owner to expect their dog to get along with every dog (Dog agressive or not, and this goes for all dog owners).<br /><br />No I do not think they should be muzzled, an educated APBT owner knows that dog parks or areas with unleashed/uncontrolled dogs is not a place for the breed.<br /><br />However a APBT with a proper temperament would love to be in a place filled with people. :)
Not really trying to enter the debate or take sides. I just think of pit bulls like any other dog. ALL breeds have past, and can be aggressive towards other animals or people. Any dog can and will be used in the fighting ring, pit bulls are just the most popular in America, followed by rotties and GSD.<br /><br />Also I just wanted to single this out:<br /><i>The reason I compared the dog to a horse is the fact that both have the power to kill, and neither one has been bred to kill people.<br />Yes but we're talking about APBT killing/fighting other dogs right now.</i><br />Actually if you like I can dig up articles, photos and videos of horse fighting. Yes, they do fight horses in rings, sometimes to the death. Its quite popular in some areas in Asia at this moment. Therefore, comparing pitbulls to horses is indeed relevant to this debate.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds">List link</a><br /><br />So what about boxers, then?<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_dog#List_of_breeds_commonly_used_as_guard_dogs">Another list link</a><br><br>And what about guard dogs? Some of those breeds were purposefully bred to be at least stranger-reactive, if not human aggressive. Should they need muzzles as well? What if a child runs up to them? Shouldn't they have a muzzle to prevent biting?<br><br>I think a responsible pit owner does not automatically become irresponsible for not muzzling their dog just because of a possibility of aggression...a possibility which you have no idea about. They've lived with the dog for potentially its entire life; you just saw them walking the dog. Yet you have the right to tell them they cannot walk their dogs without a muzzle or they're irresponsible? That makes no sense to me. :/<br><br>Edits to fix my lazy html.
Kuro, not once have I ever heard of a husky-fighting ring<br />Where two huskies are put into a pit and forced to kill eachother
My dad owns a pit named Duchess, she is the sweetest dog you could ever hope to meet. My neices have ridden her around the house, they get on her back and hold onto her collar, she sits down when she wants them off. My sons when they where younger pulled on just about everything they could reach on her, the big lips, her ears, her tail. and she would lick them to get them to stop. Pits arnt bad dogs, there are NO bad dogs, just bad owners in my opinion. Duchess is well trained in German, she doesnt understand Sit and Lay down in english its Zebom and Ince. She does have a protect comand witch in case there is a break in, once said she will do her job as the gard dog she is.
Actually, huskies HAVE been used for fighting in the past, and are still used for it today. It shouldn't surprise anyone, since they're tenacious fighters when challenged by another dog. They also have a VERY high tendency to fight for alpha positions, and will tear another dog to shreds. Mushers up north have seen this happen; a pack of huskies will rip apart a dog they see as weak, especially to take his position. So they're certainly dog aggressive, something that is well-known, but they've been known to sometimes (more often than people seem to think) attack and kill people too. They've evolved through a harsh past.
<b>but.. why limit it to dogs who're known for fighting?</b><br>I think any aggressive dog should be muzzled when around other dogs, but when you take a breed that <i>[if in a fight]</i> will bite, grab on and hold until it dies.. it's just not worth the chance. Most people don't even know what a breakstick is <i>[hell, some people think they're used only by dogfighters!]</i><br />A German Shepherd is a lot easier to pull off another dog then an APBT. There is a reason why breaksticks go hand-in-hand with the APBT and not GSDs or Huskies ;)<br /><br><b>I mean, if it comes down to it, huskies and GSDs were known for fighting. Shouldn't they need to be muzzled too?</b><br>..Wha? Huskies and GSDs aren't fighting breeds.<br><b>Labs are notorious for causing problems at dog parks and on walks. Shouldn't they be required to wear a muzzle?</b><br>If a lab is dog-aggressive, I fully support muzzling it in public. If anybody has a dog that is dog-aggressive, it should be muzzled.<br><b>The reason I compared the dog to a horse is the fact that both have the power to kill, and neither one has been bred to kill people.</b><br>Yes but we're talking about APBT killing/fighting other dogs right now.
Кле, I fully understand your suggestion for muzzling these dogs, but.. why limit it to dogs who're known for fighting? I mean, if it comes down to it, huskies and GSDs were known for fighting. Shouldn't they need to be muzzled too? Labs are notorious for causing problems at dog parks and on walks. Shouldn't they be required to wear a muzzle?<br /><br />To be honest, if you can't control the dog, including having it on a leash and keeping it from causing problems with other dogs/animals, then you shouldn't have the dog. It irks me that people who obviously cannot control an animal feel they have the right to own one just to make themselves look cool.<br /><br />The reason I compared the dog to a horse is the fact that both have the power to kill, and neither one has been bred to kill people. The fact is that sometimes, it does happen, but not as often as the media wants us to think, in the case of the Pit Bull.<br /><br />My point is also that Pits are not just dog-aggressive, but animal-aggressive over all, which is a trait I find a whole heck of a lot of with any breed that's a terrier or derived from the terrier group. It's the way they are, and thus Pits should not be singled out among these, and the full extent of these traits being forced upon their shoulders alone.<br /><br />I want people to realize that Pits are a terrier. They are going to have terrier traits, and if you can't handle a terrier, you shouldn't own this breed, just like you shouldn't own a Jack Russell.
As far as being around other dogs, it's best to keep meetings small so that if a fight does break out it can be easy to separate.<br /><br />APBT owners should carry break sticks with them. They have bulldog blood, bulldogs are known for their grip. Coupled with the shaking of the terrier and their long history of being bred for being the top fighter. These dogs are going to do a lot of damage in a dog fight.<br /><br /><br />Oh and I fully support the breed, I adore them.
I have been doing a lot of research on American Pit bull Terriers and have found a lot of myths and how ignorant people can be.<br /><br />In the right hands they are amazing dogs, very human tolerant, confident, tenacious, they excel in every sport. (I know a APBT titled in herding)<br /><br />It's all about being responsible for your dog. You can have an extremely dog aggressive dog, but that dog will not cause any trouble if you keep it under control.<br /><br /> Also, APBTs are some of the most over populated dogs, and are often sold for free in front of stores making it easier for irresponsible owners to obtain them. <br /><br /> Here's a great site to identify them/know how they should look.<br /><br />http://www.apbtconformation.com/head.htm<br /><br /> One thing I noticed is a lot of pit bull attacks are not from American Pit Bull Terriers. Yes "pit bull" is not a breed but a group which the APBT is put into but they are the ones who get the bad name out of it all.<br /><br />Bad breeding is another issue, temperament and behavior is partly genetic. which is how dog aggression was brought into the breed, but people have been breeding unstable dogs.