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Dae
#7 • 82176 views
Posted: 2011-02-26 09:34:55
#6748
Outdoor cats
I thought this might be an interesting one for Alacrity, as I assume most of us are animal lovers. What do you guys think about cats being allowed to roam free outside?
For me, personally, I am very much against it. I believe that cat owners should install cat runs if they wish to let their cats outside.
I am a wildlife carer and here in Australia cats are a serious threat to our natives. Almost every bird I've had come in due to cat attack has died shortly thereafter, and that's not even touching on those that die prolonged and painful deaths in the bush. All cats hunt, it is natural for them to do so. People who don't believe their cats are hunting are fooling themselves.
Furthermore, it is much safer for a cat to be kept indoors or in an enclosed outdoor area like a cat run. How many cats are run over by cars, abused by humans or attacked by other cats and dogs every year? How many unwanted litters of kittens are born to roaming cats?
Note that I do not hate cats. They are just doing what comes naturally to them. I blame the owners as it is their responsibility to manage their animals. (Also, I am not limiting this to just cats. I believe dogs should be kept confined too. However most dogs are kept in secure backyards and thus present no problem.)
Thoughts?
Replies
Celestial's Dakonic Shepherds
#34180 • 2011-04-04 10:51:34
#34180
<br /> <a href="http://www.petplace.com/cats/the-great-debate-indoor-versus-outdoor-cats/page1.aspx">Informational Link, "The Great Indoor Outdoor Debate"</a>
Celestial's Dakonic Shepherds
#34179 • 2011-04-04 10:32:16
#34179
Actually more cats are killed by cars, dogs, and humans outside the house is more common than inside accidents. At least according to every single animal shelter I've spoke to, whom is called sooo many times everyday to pick up cats that have been ran over.<br /> <br /> Just out of curiosity, where did you find that more cats die from being inside? <br /> <br /> <br /> If you have allergies to a cat, and can't keep inside...Don't have one.<br /> <br /> Your cat won't be miserable if you spend the time entertaining it everyday, exercising, providing stimulation. <br /> <br /> Even if a cat was miserable for not being outside...You could have not let it out in the first place.<br /> <br /> Vaccinations do not cover the majority of diseases from wildlife.<br /> <br /> Even if both inside and outside is dangerous. Being outside has been proven to be more dangerous by the number of dead animals found from such things as mentioned before.<br /> <br /> Why choose the one with a higher likelihood of death?
WindRider
#34178 • 2011-04-04 10:19:37
#34178
I don't want to offend some of you, but your debate is sounding really childish.<br /> <br /> No matter what anyone does, their pets will ALWAYS be exposed to dangerous things. Indoors, cats can get themselves into HUNDREDS dangerous situations, just like they can outside. In fact, I actually think it can be more dangerous inside a house. A cat being hit by a car, or attacked by dogs or by humans is far less common than being killed or hurt by an accident inside the house.<br /> <br /> I have both outside cats and one inside cat. All of my cats (except for one) showed up as strays, and we fed them and they never left. Some stay in the barn at night, while others in the garage. They are free to roam all day, but they never wander far and are smart enough to stay out of the road. My family has had debates on whether or not to make all of our cats strictly indoor cats, but, like many people out there that's just not possible. Lots of people I know CAN'T keep their cats inside, whether it's due to allergies or some other problem. And although it's a great idea, most cat owners would never be able to build an enclosed area outside for their cats, nor would they have time to fight with their cats to try to take them out for a walk. It's just not possible for everyone to keep their cat indoors.<br /> <br /> As for cats killing too many birds or rodents, where I live, this is not a problem. My cats can rarely catch a bird, but they do keep the mice away. And, if a cat does catch a bird, then they'll kill it. They won't leave it alive or let it suffer for long. That's just not how cats are. As for cats getting diseases from what they hunt, it can happen. Wildlife can carry some nasty things and that is why I don't like it when my cats eat those things, but that is exactly why you should vaccinate and deworm your cat. However, if you're talking about pet cats who are fed regularly, then half the time they won't even eat what they catch.<br /> <br /> I really don't think that this is a 100% fair debate. Every cat and every owner are different. Some love their cats more than anything else in the whole world. Some owners really don't even deserve to own their pet. Some people are more responsible than others and some people are just learning what it's like to own a cat. All of those factors play a role on whether a cat is better off inside or outside. Three of my cats for example wouldn't survive in the house - well, yes they would, but they'd be miserable - while my other three enjoy staying inside and going out when they please. You can't just judge every situation the same.<br /> <br /> I guess I'm just saying that I have nothing against keeping outdoor cats. Some people never have problems with doing so.
I don't have a dresser in my room. And there are no electrical cords in my room. They're all in the living room and my grandmother's bedroom. <br /> <br /> That sounds like a very nice jail cell. do you have a bed in your room?
Celestial's Dakonic Shepherds
#34174 • 2011-04-04 09:44:51
#34174
I don't have a dresser in my room. And there are no electrical cords in my room. They're all in the living room and my grandmother's bedroom. <br /> If the cats are in the living room, they're being supervised. And they aren't allowed in my grandmother's room.<br /> <br /> <br /> Nope no grapes. And there is bacteria on everything, not all bacteria is bad.<br /> <br /> We wash our hands after every meal, so uhm none other than what comes from normal everyday surfaces and your own body. Nothing dangerous.<br /> <br /> Don't assume things, assumption gets you nowhere.
Jambers
#34173 • 2011-04-04 09:26:44
#34173
Also we don't eat food with bacteria<br /> <br /> how do you know? do you eat grapes? how much bacteria is on your hands right now? <br /> <br /> They sleep with me at night, nothing dangerous to them is in my bedroom.<br /> <br /> yeah acculy there is, electrical cords, electric sockets, dressers falling on them. i count those as dangers.
Celestial's Dakonic Shepherds
#34172 • 2011-04-04 09:18:24
#34172
Sigh I break my own rules.<br /> <br /> I told you this already...I DO NOT allow my cats to be exposed to dangerous things. They sleep with me at night, nothing dangerous to them is in my bedroom.<br /> <br /> Also we don't eat food with bacteria, we rarely eat meat, even if my parents get meat they freeze it for a week first.<br /> <br /> And stop going off topic -_- this isn't about deer hunting. Besides, that's to cull overpopulation. Whilst the other argument was detrimental to population numbers.
Jambers
#34171 • 2011-04-04 09:12:41
#34171
It's pointless and uneccessary. Why expose your animal to something that could kill it?<br /> <br /> Even in the home a cat is likely to die from being poisend, its a fact. Garbage in you home at night you cat can get into that bacteria on the food. once again indangering your cat, lets just go ahead and build cat clean rooms, well put oon those white jump suits before we walk in to make shure its absolutly safe.<br /> <br /> Why would you kill just because it tastes good? <br /> <br /> acculy even though its retorical im going to ancwer. hunting in michigan has to be done because the deer population is out of control. there even considering EXTENDING the deer season by a few months because of the current population, and yes deer meat does tast good, i like it best in meatloaf.
Celestial's Dakonic Shepherds
#34170 • 2011-04-04 08:55:32
#34170
Sorry, gone too far into the "immature" category for me.<br /> <br /> It's pointless and uneccessary. Why expose your animal to something that could kill it?<br /> <br /> Why would you kill just because it tastes good? <br /> <br /> Retorical by the way.