Larth: Oh I see. I don't think anyone should be blamed, you didn't know that it was going to go this far.

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Amanda: It was not a glitch. I concede that it was an oversight by the admins at the time. I believe myself and Jackdaw are the only ones still around, and I'm not even sure if Jack was even an admin at that point, so I'd be willing to take on the blame for not pushing for the change sooner.<br /> <br /> As it is though, we want to fix it. We want to do something that will reign in the overpowering of these items, reign in the crazy amount of game-breaking stat increases they cause, and get the site back to where things are more achievable (while still making it so you have to work for it, of course! ;P ).<br /> <br /> As it is... what's the point in breeding? If you can just make a custom dog, throw a few hundred caps on, give the dog a fawn and use time rewinders on it daily? Or do that to a dog you found that's perfect. There's no point if you can do that.<br /> <br /> Also, again I'll reiterate, speed and drive (as well as the other stats) did indeed have an impact on trial scores - just not as much as TP. Remember, we are reworking the trial system, and you don't know how that's going to work yet (which is completely revamped from the old one), so please don't make your decisions based on what the trials were like before.

Lexy no one is being punished for anything. (Nobody did anything wrong so why would anybody get punished).It was a glitch they didn't think it was a problem. And I have over capped dogs my self I have invested my bones ala cash for them and the companions as well. All ala is trying to do is fix the glitch and make it fair for others. And trailing is not very fun for others nor is it fair for others and some people wont trail because they can't make more money as they get into higher levels because people with caps and etc.

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I agree highly with Loreebee’s comment below. Everyone who has ever become anyone doing anything began at the ground level. Simply because they succeeded in their endeavors does not mean that someone should come along and say, “Hey, now. You know… you worked hard for it… but what you have achieved needs to be less so that others can be at the same level. I understand that you started at that same level, but that’s just how it has to be.”<br /> <br /> And yes, you are taking away goals for people. And yes—FUTURE goals for the people who have yet—but have a good chance of it someday—to become successful. What good is money if you have nothing worthwhile to spend it on—to invest in? That’s like Bill Gates trapped on a deserted island with all of his money and nothing around that found it at all valuable. <br /> <br /> People cannot just… level a field because they are not yet ready to climb up the mountain’s face. That’s ridiculous. And it wrecks the (what word to use here?) “glory” for everyone else who already did it and await others to join them. A trophy is just a memory of what you <i>did</i>.<br />

Okay. I see your point of view. However, I happen to be an owner of 9,000+ TP dogs. I spent over FORTY bones for a soldier helmet to make a 9,100 TP dog for the purpose of TRIALING. Then I spent more bones to procure a Magical Lifelong Locket to protect that investment—something I would not have done otherwise. I am fifteen years of age, so do you imagine that it was a simple task to gather 40+ bones for this purpose? And I also invested in a Prairie Dog to increase TP.<br /> <br /> “As recompense for all those affected by these changes, we will be offering a special achievement trophy, as well as an exclusive companion that will boost speed and drive!”<br /> <br /> Firstly, no trophy has ever been my ambition; certainly not a virtual one and it does not make up for my investment of money and time. Secondly – I have a bunch of companions to increase the nearly pointless attributes of speed and drive; to give more variety to my stock is as pointless as a trophy.<br /> <br /> Rather than touch anybody’s dogs or reap anything from them – change the trialing system further. Don’t like the 9,000+ TP dogs? Okay. Fair enough. Put them in a different trialing system. 9,000.99 TP dogs and below trial with dogs of that likeness: 9,001-9,500 TP dogs trial with dogs of <i>that</i> likeness. <b>Do not punish (because from my perspective and probably other’s as well, that’s what this nearly is) people who invest their time and money into YOUR game (which requires it’s player’s <i>money</i> and <i>time</i> to be a successful game) because of something that is certainly not their fault and absolutely somebody else’s.</b><br /> <br /> And the only way to ACTUALLY justify making people’s investments garbage is to give them their money back. I don’t care how you do it, but heck—appraise how much the items are worth (and not how much they would be worth, minus <i>x</i>) and repay your players. A trophy, sorry to say, isn’t worth forty bones—as forty bones, according to your donations page is worth $40 <i>real</i> dollars, which is an amount I wouldn’t pay for the best shirt I’d ever seen, which actually serves a practical purpose, opposed to a trophy.<br /> <br /> I apologize for that coming off rather harsh. I did not intent for the words to appear tart, when I would have said them matter-of-factly.<br />

Like Loreebee said "people are complaining" And I don't feel like people are complaining. I don't think it's about that at all people are going way overboard with the caps and helmets I have over capped dogs myself and I am still happy with the idea of lowering the cap to 9000 to make things fair for everyone with over capped dogs or not and I like the idea of just lowering the cap to 9000.

I do enjoy Kalid and Crevan's ideas, we do want something that people with over the capped dogs would be willing to agree to. If more of our player base likes their idea, we, as admins, would be more than happy to seriously consider it.<br /> <br /> And ShadowWolf, we do plan on having a trophy for people with over capped dogs who are affected by this.

I do like the idea of making the trials only count up to the cap. That is a good idea (especially since we would have to go through and manually reset every over the cap dog!)<br /> <br /> I don't want people to think I'm saying this because I don't have capped/over the cap dogs. I do, and have, made a profit off of these dogs, and I currently have an over the cap dog that I used my aviator caps and soldier helmets on. It's just that it was becoming a huge problem - and yes. Yes, I am swayed by people who are not rich, who can't afford soldier helmets and aviator caps. Because they have the right to enjoy the game, too, and the way it was working breaks the game and makes it not fun anymore for them. It's not just about any one person here. It's about the game in its entirety.

I like Crevan's idea of trials only counting TP to the cap and any points over don't count.<br /> <br /> I won't miss the top dawg list, as the majority of top dogs are now owned by a select few, and passing current leaders up at this point in the game is virtually impossible. As for making money with over the cap dogs, it wasn't a big difference from normal capped dogs. Since my over the cap dogs would always win they would blow through the tiers and in no time they'd be at that point where next to no one enters their dogs in trials, making them useless in a short amount of time.<br /> <br /> I wouldn't bawl if my dogs tp was wiped down to the cap, despite the money I put in, as long as there was some sort of trophy, compensation or something to acknowledge the efforts that had gone into getting a dogs tp so far over the cap.

The way I see it is that my dogs that are special to me, which are only a few anymore, will be just like every other capped dog out there and the millions I put into them was nothing. Between that and time (I customized all of my favorites, too) that went into them. Another suggestion I have is to compensate some of the stats lost with speed/drive gains on the dogs, if the stats must be swiped.<br /> <br /> Just put a cap on the trialing (any dog 8999 and over runs at the same 8999 cap), and allow dogs to continue to go over the cap for the fun of it, and for breeding benefits (for if you want capped pups out of lower statted dogs for the coats they'd give) at least then the dogs still have a purpose :) -- hehe and someone else mentioned this before I could post!<br /> <br /> OR if you don't want them trialing anymore, at least leave them as they are and allow breeding with them to run as it does ^^ So, again, it allows them to be useful after all that went into them. And give people the option to swipe their dogs back down to cap, or leave them for breeding only. My dogs have too many trial wins now anyway to bother with trialing them now so I'd prefer to leave them as they are myself. Others may opt for the other option.<br /> <br /> Just a couple more ideas I've thought up ^^

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