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Kaelizilla
#5 • 20040 views
Posted: 2012-02-10 14:26:58
#10297
Fixing the Trial System; Part Deux
Welcome to the Fixing the Trial System, part two!
We had a lot of interesting discussion in the first thread and got to know a lot of your opinions and frustrations. We know what whatever is ultimately chosen is going to upset some people and make others happy. I do want to reassure everyone that changes are reversable. If we discover that whatever is changed isn't working the way it should or having a negative effect, we can always change it back and try something else.
As you can see by the new poll, we've narrowed down the options to three choices. These were the most supported options, but with a bit of a twist.
Option 1: Limit the number of dogs each person can enter into a trial to 2. This will put a stop to "trial teams" which is the main way players create for themselves 3 sure wins in trials that run quickly, and therefore a massive influx of cash. Running trial teams is not realistic in the slightest and isn't very sporting. By forcing players to compete with each other, the game dynamic of trialing becomes more competitive and realigns Alacrity with its original vision.
Option 2: Increase the Energy Cost by trial tier. This option will more effectively limit the number of times a dog can compete each day. The original suggestion put a hard cap on the number of trials dogs could run each day, but a player gave us this much more fair option. This will not render energy companions useless in terms of trialing, but will ultimately slow down how many trials run as dogs progress into higher trial tiers. Below is the suggested energy cost per tier:
Dogbert: 20 Energy Scooby: 25 Energy Odie: 30 Energy Toto: 35 Energy Marley: 40 Energy Otis: 50 Energy Gommit: 55 Energy Snoopy: 60 Energy
Keep in mind that as you go up trial levels, prize payouts also increase.
Option 3: Both Option 1 and Option 2. This option will both put a limit on the number of dogs a play can enter into individual trials, as well as increase energy costs per trial tier.
This will be the final round of voting before changes are implemented. We truly do value your opinions, so please don't be shy about posting them here :) Just remember to keep opinions and responses kind and courteous -- not everyone will agree with you!
Replies
(Dar) darkiss4428
#101624 • 2012-05-02 17:34:24
#101624
not that i check the tp of other dogs but until recently i had 80 trial able dogs and have sold 10 and still takes me hours to trial them all you figure 2 dogs per trial at 25 energy each that means 2 dogs take 4 trials and i had 80 so that's 320 trials i had to enter it takes forever vs with the trial teams i could enter 5 dogs so it's 20 dogs for 4 trial's making it 16 total trials run ... 320 vs 16.... that's a BIG difference in time
Steaks
#100783 • 2012-04-26 19:44:20
#100783
That's because you check the TP of your dogs, the other trialers dogs and then calculate which dogs will best work in the trial. my way takes less than 5 mins (clicking trials with middle mouse button and enteringa vailable dogs)
Hypno Shroom
#100782 • 2012-04-26 19:41:24
#100782
Sorry but it DOES take too long. It is favoring people with few dogs which is unfair. I can sit for hours and hours... started trialing about 8 hrs ago and still not done. ;/<br /> <br /> There are enough trials, just not with enough dogs to beat in them.
Steaks
#100649 • 2012-04-25 19:06:39
#100649
<b>it takes too long to enter so many dogs into so many trials and then you have to wait for more trials or for the ones you have dogs in to run... </b><br /> I think this has more to do with having a million billion dogs. If you're like me and middle-click/open trials in new tabs, trialing is easy and fast.<br /> Also, the lack of trials doesn't have anything to do with this trial system. If anything, there would be less trials running because of less trialers and less trials being run/"removed" :)
(Dar) darkiss4428
#99687 • 2012-04-15 15:27:41
#99687
i'm hoping the current trial setting don't work out and we go to energy tier... it takes too long to enter so many dogs into so many trials and then you have to wait for more trials or for the ones you have dogs in to run...
Steaks
#96537 • 2012-03-25 19:01:56
#96537
Why would money making be discouraged? It's the speed at which people are making money (profit)
Doom Shroom
#96161 • 2012-03-23 16:53:21
#96161
Ok, but... isn't making money just discouraged now? <br /> <br /> LOL I guess I'm dense because I play totally different compared to most people. It seems to be obvious for everyone else.<br /> <br /> I think I'll better start to retire most my dogs now, as that will take me a while :)
Steaks
#95575 • 2012-03-20 00:36:42
#95575
<i>3k TP might not be high for you, but it is for me, and for a lot of other people. 2k TP is high, actually.</i><br /> <br /> When you compare it to the fact that we currently have a 20k TP dog and dogs who are hitting around 12KTP, it's not high at all.<br /> <br /> <br /> <i>I understand that the super monster breeders just seem to scoff at the work going into the non-capped dogs, but this is creating a two-class Ala community.</i><br /> <br /> I train 4K TP pits (for my capped line lol) so I do understand the work that goes into them. I still believe that 4K is not high but it's getting there.<br /> <br /> <br /> <i>It kinda feels as if Ala is pushed into a "capped dogs, nothing else counts) direction. What is, really, the point of having lots of capped dogs who are all the same in trial value and then wait for good or bad luck to see if they win or not?</i><br /> <br /> To make money?
Doom Shroom
#95499 • 2012-03-19 12:50:49
#95499
3k TP might not be high for you, but it is for me, and for a lot of other people. 2k TP is high, actually.<br /> <br /> I understand that the super monster breeders just seem to scoff at the work going into the non-capped dogs, but this is creating a two-class Ala community. Those who can afford and want the fast maxing of capped dogs and their training and those who can't (and those who probably could but have other priorities).<br /> <br /> And to me, entry fees over 1k I consider high. <br /> <br /> It kinda feels as if Ala is pushed into a "capped dogs, nothing else counts) direction. What is, really, the point of having lots of capped dogs who are all the same in trial value and then wait for good or bad luck to see if they win or not? <br /> <br /> A second trial system would be cool, where you don't pay much in entry fees and win only items not money, where you could push your lower TP dogs up by teams or any other ways you'd like. That way, no money flood into Ala and not taking the fun out of trialing either.
Steaks
#95377 • 2012-03-18 17:41:13
#95377
<i>"Many of my high TP dogs (3k and up) are way over 100 (or used to be before I got more sessions lately). So they would get health issues and would have issues reaching Otis :) Mostly I grabbed them up cheap and speed trained them when they were already over 80 or so."</i><br /> <br /> 3KTP isn't really high-tp though.. and doesn't compare to trialing a capped dog up to Gromit.<br /> <br /> <br /> <i>"I see now what you mean with the high TP dogs making less money. But wouldn't they win a lot more often than the lower TP dogs still?"</i><br /> <br /> Potentially, but I can see people not trialing them anymore.<br /> <br /> <br /> <i>"But really, those super high entry fees make it ineffective to trial anything but capped dogs - but if everyone would trial capped dogs, it would also be pointless *scratching head*"</i><br /> <br /> What "super high entry fees"? The entry fees currently aren't extremely high.<br /> <br /> <br /> <i>"Another big issue I noted since yesterday with the whole "just two dogs" problem - trials don't run for ages, including your own. Some people see it fit to throw their own monster in your trials, which you can't compete with, and then your trials are stuck."</i><br /> <br /> I have no problems with trials running for ages. I don't run into that problem.
