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Same-sex Marriage/Adoption/Lifestyle (expanded)

Should same-sex couples and families have the right to be joined in marriage with its benefits, or be contained within civil unions? Are the rights in civil unions adequate enough for dedicated partnerships or families to support on or not?

Should civil unions be allowed at all?

I want to bring up this debate as I am doing serious research paper required for the end of the year about ‘Social Justice’ and would like to see all sides of the spectrum.

Please, give posts with meaning than just putting ‘Yes! All the way!’ or ‘No! It’s wrong!’. Thank you.



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Edit: Expanded to include same-sex lifestyle/adoption/marriage.


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"It does not take a male/female couple to raise a child properly."<br /> No, it doesn't. What I said was that it takes a male and a female to <em>conceive</em> a child.
If everyone was gay, no one would have kids, and a long time into the future humans would die out.<br /> <br /> Sperm bank? Did they not take sperm from a man and put it in a woman? Of course they did. This is more evidence taht male/female couples are more logical than male/male or female/female.
"<br /> You as a gay supporter should understand the man who married a toaster, He loved it, and it's ok to marry something if you love it.<br /> <br /> It's okay to marry what you love, that's what i hear from a lot of gay supporters."<br /> <br /> Screw you. Do not dare compare me to those people. I love other people. Do not dare insult me like that, and do not insult that man either. He married the toaster because of a mental illness, don't you dare use him in such false and trivial manners. So what if I love other women? Does it hurt you? No. Does it hurt anyone? NO. So go on living your bigoted life and let me live my happy one with the woman I love.<br /> <br /> And it's okay to marry WHO you love, not WHAT you love. You are missing this critical distinction. Honestly, every post you make here makes the collective IQ of the world go down slowly. Normally, I try to be nice in debates. With ignorance like yours, I won't. You are directly insulting me in these comparisons, but worse...you are directly insulting many of my friends. And I won't stand for that.
I guess a man can marry a toaster if he really wants, not like the toaster will ever have any clue. I don't understand why someone would marry something that literally cannot love them back. Animals are NOT okay though because they cannot consent. Gays can consent, they willingly share their love with one another, so what is wrong with them getting married and expressing it that way? Denying them marriage isn't going to make them turn straight and start having kids. So why not allow it? <br /> <br /> <i>"Also, if gays continue to adopt orphaned children, there -may- not be such an adbundance of orphaned children in the future."</i><br /> <br /> There will never, ever be a shortage of unwanted children.
It does not take a male/female couple to raise a child properly. You might want to actually research these things. I know several people raised by gay couples, they turned out perfectly fine.<br /> <br /> Also, does that mean we should forbid single parents from continuing to raise their children? Should we take their children away because they cannot provide the male/female parenting system that you say is so important in life? My mom never married my father and I've turned out fine. I know a lot of people with divorced parents who turned out great. I'd actually say children raised by gay parents are better off then those of divorced families, because then the divorce can tear the child between the parents and the child can feel like it is their fault. Also, the other role model doesn't have to be from a parent. If you are raised by two men, the female role model can by your grandmother, or it can be a close friend of the family. They aren't going to be isolated for the first few years of their lives with just the two men so they don't know what a woman is. They'll have just as much love and opportunity as any child.
You as a gay supporter should understand the man who married a toaster, He loved it, and it's ok to marry something if you love it.<br /> <br /> It's okay to marry what you love, that's what i hear from a lot of gay supporters.
Also, if gays continue to adopt orphaned children, there -may- not be such an adbundance of orphaned children in the future.<br /> <br /> And if it takes a male in order for a lesbian to have a child artificially, that is just more proof that a male/female relationship is what was intended.
"<i>So let me get this straight. It's okay to marry ANYTHING if you love it. Dogs, cats, toasters? That's what I get from gays saying they should have the right to marry who or what they love</i>"<br /> <br /> Wow, I sure hope that was sarcastic. Gays should be able to legally marry others because BOTH can agree too it. It's consensual and that's what marriage is about. The commitment of yourself, your life, and your love with someone else who wants the same thing. Although... apparently it is legal to marry objects in some places. o.o<br /> <br /> Edit; Also not all species require a male to reproduce! Check out these <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2010/02/extra_chromosomes_allow_all-female_lizards_to_reproduce_with.php">lizards</a>.
"And now you just point false accusations at me?"<br /> <br /> Sorry, I apologize., That was someone else being that ignorant. But you should have read the posts before mine, then. Not everything in my post was directed at you.<br /> <br /> "<br /> So let me get this straight. It's okay to marry ANYTHING if you love it. Dogs, cats, toasters? That's what I get from gays saying they should have the right to marry who or what they love."<br /> <br /> See. I had absolutely no respect for you already. Is it possible to have negative respect for someone? I DESPISE people who say this. I had to put up with this crap from a pastor. See, there's a difference. Homosexuality isn't a mental disorder. Having an attraction that strong to inanimate objects and other animal species is. See, here's the thing. Humans can return those feelings of love. That's what makes a marriage. Two people (adults) who love each other. Plain and simple. A man can love a man just as much as some men can love a woman. Our love is no lesser than your love. And to think so is just foolish ignorance. Live my life and see what happens. My feelings for women aren't faked or the result of a disorder.
"In my opinion, there was something mentally wrong with thoes animals."<br /> That honestly is not my quote.

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