"No, not at all. You identify as male, and I'm assuming your girlfriend identifies as female, so I think this is ok, even if you weren't born male."<br /> <br /> So it's just the full on homosexuals you have a grudge against, huh? What happened, did a mean, scary gay man pop a balloon of yours when you were young or something?<br /> <br /> "Not at all. You have no right to tell me what I do and do not think and/or support."<br /> <br /> Even if it's true? That's exactly what any anti-human rights person comes across as to me. If I fall in love with a woman and can't marry her, I am not allowed to visit her on her deathbed because I am not actually related to her by blood or MARRIAGE. I deserve that right. Everyone deserves the right to be there in those moments. I don't care if they are male/male, female/female or male/female. We all deserve that right. And you are standing between me and that right.

Kira, I'm not telling you what you think, but I am telling you what you are supporting if you support anti-gay marriage. Whether you believe non-hetero couples should be able to receive tax benefits and be allowed to be together in the hospital during life-threatening situations if irrelevant. If you support the laws, you are, in turn, supporting this gross infringement on the rights of these people.<br /> <br /> You can feel however you want to, but your -opinion- should never strip other people of their rights.

"That is exactly the message every person who supports the ridiculous laws currently in place preventing non-traditional marriages."<br /> Not at all. You have no right to tell me what I do and do not think and/or support.

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There is no logical, rational reason to keep any human being from marrying another human being, and denying them the same tax benefits that go along with it. Because that's what you're doing when you tell people they can't get married for a "religious" or "moral" reason. You are telling them "you are sub-human and beneath me and do not have the right to the same tax benefits I have a right to. You also do not have the right to be with your partner in the hospital, even if they're on their death bed, and you also don't get to claim their body in the event that they die because I think the way you conduct yourself sexually is icky."<br /> <br /> That is exactly the message every person who supports the ridiculous laws currently in place preventing non-traditional marriages. You are directly looking down at people not like yourself and putting them on a level lower than yourself.<br /> <br /> Is it any wonder there is such a staggering percentage of hate crime around the world, against non-hetero couples? You've reduced them to sub-humans, instead of counting them as equal human beings.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide#Stages_of_genocide.2C_influences_leading_to_genocide.2C_and_efforts_to_prevent_it">Click here</a>.

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"Are you telling me that I don't deserve to be able to walk into a courthouse with my girlfriend and get a marriage licence?"<br /> <br /> No, not at all. You identify as male, and I'm assuming your girlfriend identifies as female, so I think this is ok, even if you were born male.<br /> <br /> Edit: I meant weren't

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"Are you telling me that I don't deserve to be able to walk into a courthouse with my girlfriend and get a marriage licence?"<br /> <br /> I'm saying it's not what I believe in. As for whether or not you "deserve" it, I can't judge for sure.<br /> <br /> [edit]<br /> To clarify things, I would allow a trans man and a female to be married. But not a male and male or a female and female.

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Please answer my question. It was very direct. I want you to answer this as close to face to face with me as is possible in an internet conversation.<br /> <br /> "Are you telling me that I don't deserve to be able to walk into a courthouse with my girlfriend and get a marriage licence?"

....Really. You are demeaning me again. If it's not a requirement to have kids in marriage, and we're already overpopulated, why the hell can't I get married to another woman?<br /> <br /> Also, opinion...there's that word again. Give me facts. That is what a debate is about. FACTS.

<i>"n my opinion, male and female should be able to marry, regardless if they have kids or are able to. The way I see it, male and female are supposed to be together because they can have kids, not that they have to."</i><br /> <br /> Again, marriage is about LOVE, not whether or not they can have KIDS. <br /> <br /> Also, as pointed out, this isn't the place for just opinions. Please back up your arguments, it's called a debate for a reason. We debate why it's right or wrong. It isn't a place to just pop in and say "THIS IS WHAT I THINK BECAUSE I THINK SO." and that be it.

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