Well, gay marriage doesn't really bother me very much, but yeah, I do have my quirks about it. And as I said, I wouldn't really call it "normal" because I would think guy/girl relationships are "normal", but that doesn't mean that LGBT stuff is bad, either. And yeah, it is sin in some religions. I personally was raised to be strictly Christian and I was taught that homosexuality was sin. I guess some of my opinions come from that, but I try to be more open-minded. And as for me "never getting married", that was a joke (which I know I probably should have said it was) since I'm a furry and most furries are gay dudes.

Kira, I am a little confused. In <a href="http://www.alacritysim.com/forums.php?boardid=8195&category=Debate">this thread</a> you said...<br /> <br /> <i>"I was born a straight female and I still am... I mean, y'know, if you were born a dude but you "feel" like you "are" a girl, then that's cool. And if you're a girl who likes other girls or whatever that's cool too. It really doesn't bother me. The only thing that gets on me is that all of a sudden the rainbow is a symbol for LGBTs all around the world. I mean, seriously, people. I personally like the rainbow 'cause it's all color-y and stuff, and now people think I'm and LGBT person... LGBT needs a new symbol. Other than that, yeah man. I can live and let live."</i><br /> <br /> Why does that not apply to marriage? How would gay couples being allowed to marry hurt anyone or anything? That isn't "living and letting live" by any means. And, as BlackFox pointed out, there is seperate of church and state for a reason. This country isn't all christians, so they have no right to tell others what they can and can't do. They certainly weren't the first religion to have marriages either, so they can't claim it as strictly their own.<br /> <br /> <i>" I would never get married."</i><br /> <br /> Then that is your <i>choice</i>, not the fault of gay marriage. At least you would have that choice, whereas gay couples currently do not. What gives you the right to get married and not them?<br /> <br /> <i>"I don't think it's normal."</i><br /> <br /> Actually, it is very common in nature. People don't choose to be gay any more than they choose to be born with a certain color eyes.

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Also, why would you never get married? Does two women getting married really threaten your relationship that much? Even if they are in love and deserve marriage just as much as you? Well guess what, in that situation, it isn't the LGBT community at fault. It's you.<br /> <br /> And how is it not normal? Considering it is incredibly common in nature and it causes no harm to anyone. Also, it isn't sinful in other relationships. Why is your religion more important than mine? Considering mine isn't completely idiotic in the sense that I believe in human rights and that all humans are equal. And I was born bisexual, and I should be allowed to marry a woman if I like.<br /> <br /> Also, I would like to point out that several great countries and states allow gay marriage. God hasn't come to smite them down yet, and they are all doing fine with the allowance of gay marriage.

Who cares if its a sin in some religions, Kira? We have freedom of religion AND seperation of church and state. Religious arguments have no bearing in our government. And also, why am I a second class citizen just because I like other women? I deserve the same rights as any straight person. And saying otherwise is insane.

I'm not at all for it. Just no. I don't think it's normal. In some religions it's sin. Religious people would freak out. I would never get married.

I think gay marriage benefits the economy tho, because weddings creayes jobs. And a news report said that gay marriage will bring almost 200,000 dollars to the state in the next ten years if I remember correctly.

I was raised to be anti-gay/lesbian, but I can't really agree with my family. Yes I am straight, but I still believe that anyone should be allowed to marry whomever they want. I mean, just because you think differently than others, doesn't mean you shouldn't find love your own way. I support these rights, and I am glad New York legalized it.

Bumping this up in response to New York allowing gay marriages now. I think that's enough to reinvigorate this debate, considering it's a big step for us, I think.

I like you.xD I can understand your previous disagreement with gay marriage from growing up with that belief being instilled in your mind, but I love that you were able to choose for yourself what you thought and believed.<br /> <br /> Also, I agree 100% with this:<br /> "I still think that an individual church should have the choice to deny holding a same-sex marriage."<br /> <br /> I don't think anyone has said otherwise. If a church wants to deny that right, fine. There are a ton of other churches that would be willing to hold same-sex marriages.

I come from a very religious family. My father is an associate preacher, my mother teaches children church every Sunday morning. Not only that, but I've also been raised in the (very) republican and (usually) anti-lesbian/gay state of Texas. Every fiber of my being, everything I've been taught, and all those days I've sat through church, tells me to be against Same-sex marriages, and yet I can't. I would never be in a same-sex relationship(no offense meant), I simply don't see other girls that way. But I have close friends who do. One of my best friends is a bi-sexual/ usually gay guy and I feel that denying him the basic right would of marriage be unjust.<br /> <br /> I think that people need to think of the couples who are genuinely in love with someone, but unable to marry them because of laws against it. In the end, they are just as human,if not more human, than any homo-phobic politician or overly-religious moron. If they want to get married, and are really in love, than who is anyone to try to stop them. If they choose to adopt a child or children, then what is wrong with that. I guess, that what any person wishes for, gay or not, is to live a life where they want, as they want, with the person they love, so why should be stop anyone.<br /> <br /> I honestly have trouble admitting this... When I first saw this debate, I began writing a response about how same-sex isn't right. But I read a few of the earlier responses and I saw how invalid my points were. I realized that I was being just as horrible and idiotic as the people who repeat incorrect verses and misinterpreted stories in an attempt to prove a point that is completely wrong. Us Christians tend to claim that we are full of love, we repeat verses about what love is, how important love is, all the things that loves can be and can do, and yet we are denying other human beings the right to share their love through marriage. It only makes us sound stupid to the rest of the World... <br /> <br /> I still think that an individual church should have the choice to deny holding a same-sex marriage. By an individual church I Don't mean all catholic churches or anything like that, but 'The First Church of blah blah blah" should be able to decide if they would be okay with holding it within their building(if that makes any sense). Other than that, I think it is not the governments place to decide if a person's love is real or not based on their gender.

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